If I Were a Youth Pastor Again – Part III

Ok, still mulling this around.

Vanilla Baptist is a church with a fairly stock standard approach to mission and ministry. It revolves largely around getting people to attend the Sunday morning service. The more there, the better we are doing – the fewer there the worse we are doing. While this sound like a crass oversimplification this is the mindset most people are operating on.

Where does a youth pastor start whose goal is to equip young people to be disciples (and by implication missionaries) in their own context?

A few quick thoughts on how we can influence young people and churches and areas we would need to consider:

Preach It?… – Ask me a few years back and I would have said ‘preach it!’ This is based on an interesting asumption that people listen to preaching and are changed by it. Some are… but… many fall asleep even during the most compelling speaker’s presentations. Speaking about it would definitely be a part of the process – a public platform with a fairly captive audience is a nice thing. BUT let’s just not overrate its power. After 3 years of preachng the same stuff at my previous church, with people nodding, saying ‘yeh yeh’ the actual transformation of culture was fairly minimal. I put a lot of eggs in the preaching basket and I don’t believe it paid off.

Living It – There is absolutely no question that the most powerful way to influence people in my opinion is to do what you speak about. No action = no credibility. There are way too many people who like to talk and too few who like to get on with it. By doing it people will both have a working model and will listen when you speak.

Yeast – To borrow from Jesus analogy, yeast is a powerful substance despite its relatively small size. I like the idea of developing a small team of people who I will spend a lot of time with and will invest heavily into. A small group of people can significantly impact a large group if they capture a vision and follow it. I’d be spending my first year finding the people who will be the key players for the 5 years after that and spending large chunks of time with them talking about the core issues of discipleship and mission.

Exposure – So often we don’t know what we don’t know because we have only lived in a very small world. The most transformative experiences for me have been when I have gone to settings where I have been unfamiliar and had to process new information. I’d be taking this small group and any other takers to events and activities where their thinking will be challenged and reshaped. If I were a youth pastor now I’d be tapping into the Forge intensives and using them as food for discussion. I’d be trying to get a few parents along as well.

Programs – I said before I don’t think I’d (personally) change anything immediately. I’d be inclined to keep the ship sailing a fairly safe course on the surface, while talking with the crew below deck about navigating a new course. If the time spent in close contact and in exposure to new thinking doesn’t catalyse thinking about ‘why we do what we do’ then I’d be very surprised. If it came to the point of closing some programs or starting some new more effective ones then I’d like to do that because the initiative has come from the young people. Again I’d like to do all this in consultation with parents – not as permission givers – but by way of keeping them informed of developments. Parents don’t handle surprises well (‘Mum – there’s no evening service as of next week’ – ‘What?!’) so by keeping them in the loop we do in sense have their permission anyway.

Structure – I am strong believer that any functioning living organism has a healthy structure. I’d be looking at the structure of the youth ministry and asking ‘where is it healthy and where is it sick?’ I’d be looking to develop a strong yet flexible structure that would help us do what we want to do without binding us up in meeting mania. I believe people need to know that there is a sense of order to what is happening if they are to believe in it.

In many ways it is plotting a course for change but in a way that has people thinking they dreamt it up themselves and as such own it more strongly.

I’m not sure if I’m out of steam on this one yet – we’ll see!download monsters inc free

You Could Fob This Off…

Recently I received an email from a 10 year old boy by the name of Chris asking if I would pass on his ‘request’ to all the people I know. He had a friend called Sinead who had died of Leukemia and he wanted to raise money for Cancer research.

With the amount of spam we get these days it was tempting just to hit delete. Blah blah blah…

But I decided to read on…

The more I read the more I was inspired by this young guy who hasn’t sat around and griped about the issue he is fighting for but has got off his butt and actually done something.

I’ve posted his stuff below so you can read it and maybe even support him in what he is doing.

With all the things we could support you might ask ‘why this’?

Well – part of me just loves the willingness of a 10 year old boy to start this ball rolling – believing that maybe he can make a difference!

Good on ya Chris – you’re a legend!

Sinead

Dear Sir/Madam,

My name is Chris XXXXXXX, I am 10 years old and I am writing to you because my sister Katy and I desperately need your help.

Last year our really cool friend, Sinéad Murdoch died. (Pic on left) She was only 12 years old and she died because she had leukaemia. Sinéad was so brave and never gave up even though life was really hard for her. She really should not have had to die. On August 16 it was be a year since Sinéad passed away. She was really special to me and I still miss her a lot, she should not be forgotten. Sinéad died because there is not a cure for leukaemia, she suffered so much and her family have to live the rest of their lives without her.

Last October I raised over $15,000 by shaving my head but I realise that is not enough and so we want to raise even more money. Without any money for research they can’t find a cure or even how to make all the treatment less horrible for others like Sinéad. Maybe you know someone who is sick or has passed away from cancer and then you will know that it is really hard.

I have written to every school in WA to ask if their pupils can wear something yellow to school on 29 October 2004 and give a gold coin donation, (yellow was one of Sinéad’s favourite colours). I really would like it to be called ‘Remember Sinéad Day’ although I realise that there are many other children who suffer or die each year from cancer and we need to remember them all. It should be a day when children can remember their friends and others not as lucky as themselves, and the kids who still have cancer will see how much we care.

Lots of people have said I should ask all of WA to remember Sinead, not just schools, so I am! I really need your help because I can’t do this on my own, my trouble is to let everyone know about it. Could you ask all your friends if they would like to join in. They can take it to their work and just need to wear something yellow, or they could do something else on the 29 October and give a gold coin donation. Please help me to raise this money because I can’t do it on my own. If we work together we could get over $100,000 – that would be fantastic and one day maybe other kids won’t have to die like Sinéad.

You can take any donations or money raised into any branch of the Commonwealth Bank on or after Remember Sinéad Day or send a cheque to The Children’s Leukaemia and Cancer Research Foundation at PO Box 1118, West Perth WA 6872.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Kindest regards
Christopher XXXXXX

Chris

Chris with shaved head

Donations to:

Children’s Leukaemia & Cancer Research Foundation (Inc)
PO Box 1118, West Perth 6872

You could just fob it off as another kid with an idea…

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If I Were a Youth Pastor Again…

I’m still pondering this question of youth ministry especially in light of our calling to live as missionaries in a post-christian setting…

Here’s a typical scenario:

Vanilla Baptist Church has employed me 3 days a week as their youth pastor to ‘oversee their youth ministry’. They are a church with a ‘contemporary’ morning service where around 150 people come to worship. They have a craft group, a men’s ministry, small groups etc etc… you know the place don’t you?

They have said ‘we want you to oversee the youth ministry and grow young people into disciples’. I think that sounds like a pretty good goal, but I’m not sure we are talking about the same end product.

If by disciple they mean a nice, well mannered middle class boy or girl who doesn’t rock the boat, attends church and small group weekly, serves in the church, doesn’t drink, smoke or swear then I’m probably not your man any more.

I hope any disciples that come out of a youth ministry would be well mannered, would be committed to a group of people as their church, but I’d like to shoot for more than a cosmetic behavior change package. I’d like to see some serious change happening in the heart that shows itself in the radical lifestyle Jesus speaks of.

So where would I start…

(Remember I am still ‘thinking out loud’ and this is a relatively unedited spiel!)

* I think getting to know the young people in the church and their families would be a critical place to start. These guys are the ‘missionary team’. They are the people I will be seeking to weld into an effective group, so it makes sense to really get to know them. I’d give a year or so to start that process.

* I’d probably meet with the young people partly in private and partly in the family room of their homes so parents can ‘listen in’ and hear what is in my heart – what I am dreaming of. I sense that if we are going to get parents on board with a missional paradigm of youth ministry rather than a clubby one then they will need to capture the vision and have the opportunity to interact with it.

* I think I’d have a camp/retreat pretty early on to sense the vibe in the group. You can only take people from where they are at. If they are a disconnected, unhealthy group then you would start in a different place than if they were a healthy group. A camp will reveal a lot about a group!

* I think I’d be sharing my own dreams right up front. This is a debatable issue. Do you provide a dream/vision or draw it out of them? I think the answer is both, but my guess is that they would be looking for leadership and wondering what I am on about as a person. I woud share my own sense of calling to be a missionary and then look to see what that sparked in the group. Its here that I believe communication is an essential component of good leadership. Bad communication can see a group saying ‘ho hum… so what?…’ Passionate communication no matter how clumsy may just inspire them to explore some new ideas.

* I wouldn’t dissasemble anything. As tempted as I may be to completely reshape a traditional youth mministry I wouldn’t touch it. In fact I would look to support the leaders as they ran their youth groups, small groups or whatever. There’s plenty of time for reshaping, but to crack the heads of their sacred cows too early would only bring unnneeded tension. This is just one approach. I have a friend who upon entering the church made 40 changes in 40 days. It rocked the boat seriously, many people left, but it set it on a new trajectory. Personally that’s not an approach I prefer as it requires a level of authoritarian leadership that can at times veer into bullying.

* I’d be meeting with the parents as a group and then one to one/two wherever possible. Yes, that’s time consuming and laborious, but, if I have their trust and respect then its like an open cheque book. I’m not concerned to keep their ‘salary paying $$$’ I refered to in my last post, but I am concerned that I have their support because they trust me. I think I’d be pretty up front with them about my core ministry philosophies and values and might discuss some possible implications.

So far I haven’t really ‘done anything’ in terms of developing a ministry have I?… I guess that all depends on how you view ministry.

In a recent newsletter for our backyard missionaries team I mentioned that we as a team are in the foundational stages of our development. If were a house we would be at slab level. The reality is that no one ever looks a concrete slab and says ‘wow nice slab!!’ but exorcism of emily rose the online without a rock solid foundation the rest of the structure is destined for endless problems. It might not fall down, but it will always have cracks and problems.

What come after the slab?…

I might keep writing on this tomorrow.

Ecclesial Missions?

I was reading Alan Jamieson’s ‘Churchless faith’ thesis today and came across this great turn of phrase from David Bosch. With all the talk of missional churches etc Bosch was sharp enough to make the following observation:

“The inverse of the thesis ‘the church is essentially missionary’ is ‘mission is essentially ecclesial’.” (1993) Transforming Mission: Paradigm Shifts in Theology of Mission.

So maybe rather than missional churches we need ecclesial missions

. A recognition of the primacy of mission as the activity of the church, but also an appreciation that effective mission requires some level of gathering.

Winton is back!

At last my all time favourite author, West Aussie Tim Winton has released a new book – this time a collection of short stories with interlinked themes and characters. The Turning is due for release soon and should be a great read. So far Cloudstreet is still my favourite followed by The Rider and Dirt Music.

Is There a Future For Youth Ministry?…

In a couple of weeks I will be sitting on a panel with a small group of other ministers from various backgrounds discussing the future of ‘youth ministry’. I will be wearing my Forge and ’emerging church’ planting is the hat, as well as having a bit of a clue as I spent 18 years in youth ministry of various sorts.

(Be warned” This is a long post and is my way of thinking out loud on this subject before I need to speak about it… I May disagree with myself tomorrow)

Some of the big questions around at present include:
• Is youth ministry working?
• What does an ‘incarnational’ youth ministry look like?
• Is youth ministry a valid ministry in itself or is it ultimately self defeating in that we create separate sub groups with the body and segregate families?
• Should we have youth pastors?
• What is the fruit of youth led youth ministries?

It seems there has been a significant shift in recent years amongst thinking youth pastors away from the good old stock standard youth ministry practices of running school programs, youth groups, small groups and Sunday (usually evening) services to a more intentional and relational approach.

At the end of the day the bottom line question for me is always going to be the same:

Are we producing disciples of Jesus Christ?

Are we actually seeing young people transformed into the image of Christ as they are involved in our ministries or are we keeping them entertained and wowed until they feel like they want to move on to the next show in town?

Are we disciple makers or baby sitters?

Having led a so called whiz bang youth ministry that grew rapidly, saw a heap of conversions and was flavour of the month for a while I think 5 years on I’m able to look back and see some of the good and the bad of it.

Using the traditional methods we did:
– put ourselves in contact with many young people
– manage to attract a fair number of them to our programs (at least for a time)
– see them explore faith to some degree
– see some grow in faith and become disciples

We also:
– invested huge time and people resources in making events happen that would hopefully attract young people
– created an alternative sub-culture that we set against the mainstream to some degree. We definitely called people ‘out of the world’ and into the ‘youth scene’
– saw young people become increasingly demanding when it came to ‘quality’ of church services and eventually saw those same young people tire of what we had to offer and move on.
– burnt out a lot of leaders as we sought to keep the ministry growing
– used people as leaders who were probably quite suspect in regard to their own discipleship because of their relative immaturity.

I spent most of my youth ministry time working off the YM Strategy model and while we did see some people become disciples probably 70% would not be connected in any faith community today and I’m sure plenty of them would see their Christian faith as a ‘stage they went thru’.

That would seem to be normal for many youth ministries and has to concern us! Getting them there is probably 1% of the battle. Making disciples is a hell of a lot harder.

In my time at Lesmurdie I was all for growing a ‘youth church’ where young people did everything with minimal adult involvement and it did generate some serious enthusiasm sometimes simply because we thought we could do it ‘better’ than the adults. (‘It’ being music and performance stuff)

People would sometimes ask me where it was all headed. Where did these young people go when they got too old for youth church? Would they come to Sunday morning services? As if!”

To some degree we had created a monster and didn’t know what to with it. It was an upwards spiral and destined to explode at some point.

That was then – 7 years ago.

The question being explored now is what are the alternatives to mainstream approaches to youth ministry? And” who will have the balls to implement them? (Because it will bring some serious pain!)

The only youth pastor I have seen who courageously attempted a radically different approach to youth min with an incarnational emphasis ran seriously foul of powerful parents who wanted safe spaces for their kids and were concerned that the lack of programs would see their children either leave that particular church or the church in general. There was also concern that encouraging young people to hang out with their non-christian friends might see them lose their way with faith, start drinking, taking drugs sleeping around etc.

This pastor was and still is a good mate and a great bloke, however I think it would be fair to say these significant conceptual shifts and structural changes in approach to youth ministry weren’t communicated or implemented in the most effective ways, so while the ideas / practices may have had merit they finished up causing a huge bunfight and actually set the cause on its heels to some degree.

Bummer because it was a well reasoned appraoch both theologically and sociologically.

The serious tension in all of this is that youth pastors are not paid to equip young people to become missionaries in their local contexts. This is not a high priority of most local church parents. Even if they verbalise it as a priority much higher on the agenda is the task of keeping my kid safe and preventing them from losing their way spiritually as they move thru adolescence. With missionary engagement involving risk and movement into what may be seen as dangerous territory there are going to be more than a few sparks for any youth pastor who tries to re-shape the system.

No parent wants to see their child placed at risk and to some degree that is a fair thing. Let me develop that idea a little.

Let’s use the pub as a ‘risky’ venue. (‘How lame’ I hear you say – but to evangelical parents the pub is the nemesis) A youth pastor may suggest that rather than running an all in jelly and vegemite games night the young people in his care head down to the local hang out in a group and spend some time with other local young people. They incarnate into that cultural space. I think Jesus would be ok with this 🙂

However, upon hearing this the protective parental instincts of the said young people instantly surface, fed by lurid images of Johnny coming home drunk and 3 months later annoucning that some unknown girl is pregnant and he is the father.

There is a risk that Johnny will get drunk. There is a risk that while drunk Johnny will sleep with a girl who he doesn’t know. There is a risk that Johnny will become an alcoholic, a porn star, a drug dealer, a politician”

There is also a risk that by not going Johnny learns that the core of the gospel is about ‘clean moral living’, about not going to places where you could be contaminated and not doing things that might put you on the slippery slope to losing your salvation. There is a risk that Johnny will turn out to be unable to integrate his faith with life – that he will live a safe, uncomplicated life as a ‘nice boy’ and that eventually he will grow up and wonder what the hell its has all been for.

Why has he embraced such an anaemic expression of faith where the core values are centred on what you and don’t do? What happened to the ‘radical gospel’ he heard communicated as a teenager? At one point he was prepared to die for Jesus – now he was in a depressing rut of wowserism. (Ok this is getting too autobiographical!)

Maybe then Johnny will reproduce another little Johnny who will do the same… or maybe he will reject the faith of his family and begin to discover his own faith… or maybe Johnny will just think church is for losers and give it up altogether.

I have seen all these things happen.

As I wear my Forge hat I find myself asking quite simply if we apply missionary principles to a group of young people what shape might a youth ministry take?…

If we see ourselves as devloping ecclesial missions then how might we approach that?

I guess the short term answer is that we can’t know. We can’t predict what form we will need to shape up until we understand the specific youth sub-culture/s we are engaging with.

But if I can be a tad cynical, the major stumbling blocks to experimentation in youth ministry will be the expectations of tithing, salary paying parents and the inability of the young people themselves to give up their entertainment paradigm.

Tough times ahead for youth pastors I reckon…

How Many?…

Kobeelya_1How many people can one house hold?

Here we are in Kobeelya – a huge old house in the south west town of Katanning. All of Danelle’s immediate family are here as well as various inlaws and related parties. We told Ellie it is a castle and she has been carrying on like a princess ever since!

Apart from Danelle’s mum and dad the total number of people living under one roof at the moment is 31 from 6 different families – yep that’d be 19 kids all under 12 except for one. These guys like to breed.

You can imagine that peaceful secluded moments are not high on the agenda at the moment…

A Living Legend

There are few people I have more respect for than my father in law – Peter – a top Aussie bloke who turns 60 this weekend.

It means we will be spending the next 4 or 5 days down the bush hanging out with family and celebrating his birthday.

Pete is one of those blokes who has influenced a heap of people by the quality of his character. He is an earthy, easy going type who always seems to have time to help people out. I guess one of the greatest testimonies to who he is are his kids who have known him for 60 years and still adore him.

Well done Pete!

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Are We an Emerging Church?

I’ve go to confess a reticence to use this term as it would seem to mean so many things to so many people and often those things are quite disparate.

It also seems to be a tribal term which has the potential to discredit or antognise those not of an ’emerging’ mindset.

I don’t feel what we are doing is ’emerging’ in any kind of funky innovative way and yet it definitely does fit the parameters of the EC construct quite nicely.

My preferred way of framing what we are doing is quite simply as a ‘missionary team’. Will we develop an ’emerging church’?…

I don’t know.

And quite frankly that is not a key question.

Will we be effective missionaries developing indigenous faith communities? I sure hope so. Emerging or non emerging I really don’t care so long as we do what we say we are doing.bud abbott and lou costello in hit the ice dvd