The Inportance of Losing our Distinctives

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As anyone who has read here for a while would know I have a somewhat tenuous relationship with the term ’emerging church’. It seems to be a catch all term for those who aren’t doing church in rows with 3 fast 3 slow an offering and sermon. I think it is way too vague to really define anything effectively and yet it seems that what we are doing belongs somewhere in that basket. I have often said that we prefer to see ourselves simply as missionaries, but somehow I continue to find myself aligned with emerging church ‘conversations’ (there’s that word again)

Today I was talking with my friend Stuart Wesley who is currently at a meeting of the national board of the Vineyard Churches in Australia. I value Stuart a heap as he is a great mate, similarly gifted and passionate, but also sees the world differently to me at times.

We were discussing the stuff we are doing here in the West Oz Forge network seeking to inspire and equip people to get back into their communities and be missionaries there rather than simply running better church services and hoping punters come. As I have preached around the place and engaged with a fair few pastors and church leaders over the last couple of years I have become aware that this mindset is actually growing in the established church.

While there is still a high priority placed on a decent Sunday event there is a growing recognition that it is not the answer we once thought it was. There is an increasing awareness that we are called to be salt and light in the world – not in the church. I must say that for those of us who have chosen to run with no large Sunday event I would think it is somewhat easier to make the shifts and practice new modes of mission as we are not constantly drawn back to an existing imagination of the church.

However what happens if this idea of being salt and light in the world really catches on? What happens if the Church (big ‘C’) gets it?!… if they really get it and people become less focused on music practices and more on meeting their neighbours?

If missional engagement is the primary distinctive of the ‘Emerging Missional Church’, and everyone ‘gets it’ and does it then we will no longer be ‘distinctive’.

In fact I believe this ought to be our aim – to lose download blazing saddles divx our distinctiveness.

In the late 80’s (I think) the Vineyard was being birthed as John Wimber led a movement that called the church back to real connection with God in worship, the gifts of healing/knowledge etc and also to the kingdom of God as a primary undergirding framework.

It was their distinctive for a number of years. But now… what the Vineyard are on about has become mainstream stuff. Its no longer ‘out there’ and different or confronting. Conservative evangelicals are ok with ‘intimacy with God’, with healing, with kingdom of God stuff.

I would say that part of the reason the Vineyard movement (at least here in Oz) has lost some of its initial impetus is that it is no longer distinctive – and in many ways that is actually a good thing. People got it! People heard the message and embraced it.

I have a sense that we who are calling the church back to missional engagement that goes beyond event management and Sunday services, may be distinctive for a short while, but as people ‘get it’ (as seems to be happening) we will no longer be neccessary. Our job will be done.

And maybe we will be asking the same questions the Vineyard are asking at the moment. ‘What now?’

But is that a bad thing?…

I am very hopeful that one day we will lose our distinctives and in that time God will raise up a new voice/s to call us back to something else we have lost our way with. It seems to be the way of things…

Narnia and Mr Hamilton

Tonight I went to see Narnia with my friend Grendel download my blue heaven dvdrip constant gardener the dvd download – a wonderful movie!

As one who has never read the books, I really didn’t know what to expect, but it was engaging and every bit as enjoyable as I had hoped.

I find movies a powerful medium for helping me connect with God and this one was no exception. There were many images throughout that helped me see Jesus and the kingdom of God in ways I hadn’t before. Lots to mull through.

Afterwards we went for coffee where I bumped into two of my favourite students from my teaching days a long time ago. It was nice that at 32 years old they still had enough respect to call me ‘Mr Hamilton’ 🙂 If you happen to find this Kym and Peta then it was great to see you both again!

Kimmmoooiiiieeee

My good mate Kim Hammond has got his blogging butt into gear over here. Here’s a quote from his first post on developing missional communities:

As Maria and I come into 2006 we are asking ourselves again, what do we need to do to grow deeper in our love for God and what kind of consistent disciplined life do we need to live. I know it is only in accountable loving community can I truly grow and experience real accountability and mentoring. Whether we go to the Pub is irrelevant if we aren’t hearing from God, being obedient to His calling and developing the kind of disciplined lives that have a healthy rhythm of play and pray. I don’t want to sit in a pew staring at the back of someone’s head, but neither do I want to hang out at a Pub thinking I am better than pew sitters. I want to be Jesus wherever He asks, whether that’s a Pub or a Park.

Say ‘g’day’ over at his site (when he gets his comments working!)

While they sleep

Danelle and Sam had a nap this afternoon so Ellie and I headed off over the dunes to a private little beach for a bit of dad and daughter fun.

We splashed, fished, got very wet, laughed a lot and then came home. A wonderful afternoon

(The images aren’t brilliant but considering they are from a Nokia 6210i they are not bad at all!)

Pre-faith gifting

One of the interesting concepts Andrew Dowsett shared at our Forge intensive last year was his belief that the various gifts mentioned in Eph 4 are part of the ‘creation order’ – ie we are born with certain unclinations and talents, (which is why non-Christian people who are entrepeneurial would appear apostolic, caring people would appear pastoral etc) however as a person is regenerated these gifts then become reconfigured and used in the ‘redemption order’. (Correct me if I have misrepresented you Andrew!)

I can certainly buy the notion that we are born with (or maybe more accurately develop in) certain gifting areas. A sensitive person is more likely to be pastoral. So… if Andrew’s theory is accurate, and it may well be, what does that mean for people with gifts of knowledge/prophecy etc.

Is it possible that a ‘pre-faith’ person is able to accurately discern spiritual stuff and may have a gift of ‘prophecy / word of knowledge’?

Best Coffee in Perth

Phil Baker

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is asking for people to rate the best coffee spots in Perth… or maybe its the best coffee?…

There have been several comments so far about the type of coffee. However for me its about the coffee and more.

As I work in Leederville I have several times been to one of Perth’s top rating spots – the trendy 130’s – but the staff there have been rude on a couple of occasions so I refuse to go back unless I have to. No one has go put up with bad service these days.

So I hang out at Greens cafe just across the road. I don’t think it would be everyone’s cup of tea (har har!) but I like it because the coffee is good (is that a personal taste thing anyway?), the vibe is casual rather than pretentious and the staff are great. Goodonya Lavinia, Aleisha, Jai, Eddy and crew.

I’m sure there are plenty of places that do good coffee, but for an all round experience these guys are hard to beat.

SHUT up!!!

I find it really hard to concentrate with noise.

Today I did my scuba theory test. As the instructor left the room he said ‘talk amongst yourselves and you’ll figure it all out’. Well I don’t like ‘talk among yourselves types of tests’. I like ‘shut up and get on with it’ kinds of tests.

I go the bottom mark today.

Today I had the ‘know it all’ girl on my left calculating her info out loud and then trying to impress the instructor – ‘SHUT up!’, the bogun boys on my right who had ‘been on the piss till 4AM’ were giggling and carrying on, the guy next to me had gone blank and kept asking my opinion just as I was thinking and calculating…

I finished up passing no worries, but the depth calulations were almost all botched because I couldn’t concentrate. Next time I find a padded cell and go there.x files i want to believe the divx download

Living in the paradoxical truths

The life of discipleship to Jesus is one of great paradox.

1. No matter what we have done or where we have been he accepts us, loves us and forgives us. There is no limit to the grace of God. We can never make him stop loving us. This is a fact and never changes. Lousy Christians are as loved by God as superheroes.

2. We are called to absolute self sacrificing devotion where our lives are laid down and we follow his will for our lives. We ‘deny ourselves take up our cross and follow him’. This is also a fact and never changes. He doesn’t have a soft option for those who only want a little ‘god in their lives’

Somewhere in those two truths is the life of discipleship.

Nothing we can do…

Everything we must do…

Don’t be fooled

“Leaders who are looked to constantly, who give our answers competently, who everyone assumes are living what they are saying often have acute experiences of dissonance. Who I am and what people think I am isn’t anywhere close to being the same thing.”

From Eugene Petersen : Christ plays in 10,000 places

Another danger of itinerant (and even regular) speaking is that people form opinions of you that are based on a ‘charicature’ rather than on really knowing you. Because the up front persona often neccessitates a level of competence and confidence, its possible for people to see you as someone you are not and to have expectations that are neither true nor fair.

There are times I like up front speaking because it makes me look different to the person I really am – I look like the ‘all together guy’. And its even nice to feel like people think that!

However I think as I’ve got a little older I’ve come to realise there is always a dissonance between the ‘profile’ and the person and these days its not so much because I want people to see me as something special. Its more because people actually want someone to look to – someone who is a picture of spiritual vitality and competence in discipleship etc etc. People want to know there is someone out there who can actually live the faith – even if its not true!

What would it do to the folks in our churches if we as leaders were to admit that we are no more competent than them in our discipleship?

Would they believe us?

I reckon if we are gifted public communicators they will struggle to believe that. There is a vibe that often goes with good communication that makes a person seem to have it all together. If we fumble over words and are boring then people might see us as other mere mortals. Such is the power and deception of public presence. And yes – I do believe its possible to be a gifted public communicator and also genuine in discipleship.

I think one of the strengths of the smaller church / network structure is that its quite difficult to hide behind ‘knock em dead’ public persona. You don’t ‘preach’ to 12 people! You can’t. It’d feel dumb. So leadership and inspiration occurs more thru the true reality of personal influence and integrity rather than the imagined reality that ‘my pastor is a spiritual superhero’.

I remember at a YS conference Mike Yaconelli saying that ‘we (ministers) impersonate ourselves’. I didn’t get it for quite a while… But I reckon its a great description of what we fall into as spiritual leaders – putting on the appearance of the person we want people to think we are.

The flip side of this is that there is power and value in the sermonic form to inspire and encourage people, as well as to provide some aspects of visonary type leadership. The difficulty is in doing it all while retaining an accurate perception of yourself and while helping others not to depend on your own charisma.

Anyway that’s my Monday morning reflection!

Now I’m off to start that SCUBA course.

Not Rocket Science

I spend a bit of time travelling around and speaking at different churches.

Its a funny deal, because in giving the same talk over and over you often look like a much more impressive speaker than maybe you really are. Its easy to be clever and funny and insightful and wise when you aren’t developing a new talk every week. Its much harder to come up with whiz bang stories and hard hitting lines when you gotta do it week after week. Been there done that.

One of the talks I like to do is in relation to this whole thing of communicating faith to others in ways that will help them hear and also respect where they are at. I like the picture of Jesus in chapter 19 of Luke where he meets with Zacchaeus. This morning at Beaumaris Baptist I was using this story to point out 6 things we can all do that don’t require any kind of theological degree. They are all drawn from Jesus actions in this story. Here they are:

1. He was available. Jesus had time for Zacchaeus. No doubt Jesus had stuff to do that day, but he created space in his world for this man. I sense one of the biggest issues for us when it comes to helping people meet God is that we are too busy to actually hang with people and develop friendships. Being ‘time poor’ will cripple our ability to develop relationships. I believe we have a challenge to live in such a way that we creat space to be with others.

2. He was in

the world Jesus met Zacchaeus out in the street – not in the synagogue. Chances are Zacchaeus would never have made it to a synagogue! Chances are most Aussies will never venture into a church. If we really value the stuff we are on about then we need to come to grips with what it means to live the gospel in the world and to meet people on their terms.

3. He was aware – Jesus noticed Zacchaues up the tree. I reckon he saw him because his ‘spiritual attenae’ were tuned that way. He was always on the outlook for people who were in need. I don’t think I am always all that good at being tuned into where people are at and what their needs are, be they spiritual, physical or practical.

4. He welcomed everyone – Zacchaues is just one example, but it seems everyone felt valued in Jesus presence. He didn’t have an ‘A’ list and a list of ‘losers’. Some people make us feel less comfortable because they aren’t like us. Jesus doesn’t live out of this anxiety.

5. He took a risk – he invited himself back to Zacchaues’ place for lunch. He actually risked being rejected by this bloke. Most of us get stuck here. Any chance of being rejected, or made to look foolish has us turning tail and walking the other way. There is always a risk if we initiate friendship and if we are honest about who we are in that friendship, as followers of Jesus then chances are some people will feel uncomfortable with that and won’t want to hang out with us.

6. He was prepared to break with tradition – Just going to Zacchaeus’ house was offensive to he crowd who muttered ‘he’s gone to be with a notorious sinner’. He broke religious laws, because this man needed a friend and needed to know how he could see change come about in his life that looked rosy but really wasn’t. We have some traditions that really need to be given the toss if they stand in the way of the gospel.

Pretty simple really.

The only thing I don’t like about the story is that there is an instant response from Zacchaeus, where he gives his stuff away and repays people who he cheated. In my experience people rarely make those shifts quite as quickly as that!

So there you have it… some simple thoughts on how we live and share our faith in our own communities. This has been a bit of a synopsis of my own learning and experience over the last few years.

What do you see in the story?