Partners in Experimentation

Today I had coffee with Steve Ingram and Peter Birt, Pastors from Parkerville Baptist Church, and two blokes I have an enormous amount of respect for.

Parkerville are one of the churches who have agreed to partner with us as sponsors over the coming financial year. They are also keen to experiment with a variety of modes of mission to reach different people and it is great to have their support and endorsement.

We have been very blessed to have a number of churches supporting us with hard cold cash, making it possible for us to do what we do.

This year my old home base (Scarborough Baptist) gave us a very significant gift that has helped us and in the coming financial year Parkerville Baps, East Fremantle Baps, Como Baps and Network Vineyard have all agreed to help us with financial support.

As well as these churches a number of individuals have supported us as they have sensed God leading them and it has been great to experience that affirmation.

Thanks to all who have joined us with us. It is great to share the journey!

The Real Heroes

It was fantastic to wake up this morning to the news that the Tassie miners had made it out of the mine and great to see the rescuers Aussie spirit that made it happen.

But…

No offense to the fellas who were stuck in the cage for 2 weeks, but the real heroes were the blokes who went back down to get them out.

It is ironic that the two blokes rescued are being spoken of as ‘heroes’. I’m sure they are good blokes and the vibe that came thru on the news tonight suggested they were true blue Aussie battlers, but heroes? They were two very unlucky men who were in the wrong place at the wrong time!

I’m rapt they’re out, but let’s not make them something they’re not.

Not wanting to be a wet blanket, but let’s face the facts!

“Heretic McLaren Re-Imagines Hell”

What a charming title.

The not so gracious guardians of all things true continue to shirtfront anyone who chooses to question their own way of thinking.

I really am a bit tired of this offensive pig-headed, lame brained nonsense.

Adding to the problem is that I can’t ‘comment’ because I have been banned from the site. And the funny thing is all I did was politely disagree… I can get a lot fiestier, but all I did was suggest a different opinion may be valid. I wouldn’t mind getting banned for being a jerk, but surely disagreement is allowed in this world?…

Why dont you offer them your own helpful insights.

While the ‘theology nazis’ continue to assault the prophets the victim in all this is the quest for a better understanding of what the Bible teaches.

(Imagine the ‘soup Nazi’ from Seinfeld) “No Heaven for you! Come back 1000 years!”

Theology of the Suburbs

I have only just discovered a series of 10 posts entitled a Theology of the Suburbs over at Theopraxis

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I have read the first few and would recommend you check them out, if like us you live in the burbs with all its attendant joys and challenges. The first post is here.

Thanks Scott for some great challenging and thought provoking stuff!

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Fast (Frozen) Eddy’s

Some of you local Perth people will be old enough to remember the days when Fast Eddy’s was a popular local cafe. There weren’t many cafes in Perth back then and this 24 hour burger joint was always a bit of a treat.

Well, we went there tonight after visiting a friend in hospital in Subiaco. I am not the world’s most fussy eater (I will eat McDonalds) but if I’m paying decent money then I half expect decent food.

Tonight I was attracted to the ‘seafood feast’, fish, prawns, scallops etc with chips. At $22.00 it wasn’t expensive, but I still wasn’t ready for what arrived. Both the kids and I received a wonderful array of frozen seafoods re-heated to perfection.

The squid, prawns and scallops were all pretty average, but the fish was in a league of its own. My kids who love fish and chips refused to eat it and I have to admit that after 2 bites I was ready to heave. I called the waitress over and asked what kind of fish it was. We discussed its species and origins briefly and I explained that Bird’s Eye frozen fish wasn’t quite what I was hoping for.

To their credit they did offer a replacement meal, but with two kids in tow, it all got a bit frantic as we waited and then downed a second meal.

I reckon it should be illegal to serve re-heated frozen fish!

The highlight of the night was getting Sam to eat a lemon…download meet the spartans movie

If Paul Was So Smart

The apostle Paul is usually regarded as one of the sharpest and most articulate theologians who have ever lived. There is no doubt that when it comes to intellect, Paul is up there with the giants.

Its interesting though that Paul’s conversion experience was not at all based on reason or logic or study.

It was a dramatic undeniable encounter with Jesus that actually reshaped his theology and upended his life. (Ironically Paul then went on to convince and persuade others of the truth of what he had experienced.)

All that to say the best arguments in the world are not likely to bring people to authentic faith unless there is a definite encounter with God. Plenty of people can argue for a logical faith, but I don’t think anyone wants a purely rational faith. It’d be somewhat dull, if not altogether colourless.

I am for using reason in conjunction with faith as appropriate, but I wouldn’t want anyone to be a follower of Jesus purely because the numbers added up!

Living Upstream – A Story

The name we have chosen for our missional community is a very intentional one.

It reflects what we believe is our calling – to be a community of people who live ‘upstream’, who live in the flow of society but who also challenge the dominant (often self centred) values by swimming against them and trying to live differently. Its what following Jesus is all about.

Its a huge challenge because we are as immersed in this world as anyone and its hard to live ‘Jesus’ kind of lives when we are as naturally selfish as anyone else. Sometimes you have to make difficult decisions, even apparently foolish ones to do that.

Today was the culmination of one of those ‘foolish’ decisions. I have permission to tell their story and I’d love you to read it because its a good one!

Since coming to Brighton 2 1/2 years ago, one family from our team – Mike & Heidi – have been living in a very nice 4 bed 2 bath home with a pool and all the fruit. As a result they have had a huge mortgage to service. They would also say they were obsessed with getting more and more, and going bigger and better. Their lifestyle had become a noose around their neck and they were drowning in it. (Sorry to mix the metaphor!)

At our Forge intensive back in March they were particularly confronted with their lifestyle and the issues of consumerism and indulgence. At the end of the conference Heidi announced to everyone that they were selling their house and downsizing as a first step towards living differently.

I have to say I was very impressed but also a bit concerned because changing house is an expensive process in itself and there aren’t many cheap houses where we live. Was this a wise decision?

We all encouraged them in their decision, but wondered how they would pull it off – and maybe even if they could pull it off. As we discussed it, we figured their house was worth $410K at a minimum and on a good day maybe $430K, but… to find another place was the issue. To find anywhere livable under $370K was a challenge. Then, deduct agents fees and stamp duty and you might spend $20K to save $30K. Would it be worth it? I was a little worried they would spend a lot of money and not actually erase the debt that was hanging over them.

Then along came Dave, the agent who tells them he can get $480K for their house.

As the pigs were flying over head I told Mike in true ‘Castle’ form to ‘tell him he was dreamin’. While theirs is a nice house it isn’t a big one and $480K would almost seem like theft! It was an absurd scenario as no house in Brighton had ever sold for that amount and theirs was not the best house in the suburb.

They gave the agent a one week listing – a week to see if he could come up with the goods. In the mean time they put an unconditional offer on another place at $365K. They had 2 months to get their place sold or pay two mortgages…

So Dave opens their home on the first Sunday for people to look thru and the very first buyer of the day places a cash offer of $475K.

What the?…

While it wasn’t $480K, it was the highest price ever in the suburb and way above what anyone expected.

Today was house move day and we have just come home from helping Mike & Heidi shift into their new 3 bed 2 bath home on a cottage block. Its quite a bit tighter for living and doesn’t have much of the fruit of their old place. But in the move they have knocked $100K of their mortgage and have begun a journey of living a sustainable and less consumer focused lifestyle. The house was only one part of that, but it was a landmark decision to live differently and stand against the lifestyle they had fallen for.

How did they get $475k for a $430K house?

Some might say bloody good luck, but I have a feeling that it was another case of people taking a risk, trusting the leading of the Spirit, seeing something miraculous happen that otherwise wouldn’t have. Yes, the challenge is now to live differently and to keep moving towards a simpler lifestyle, but that’s why we do this thing together.

Its why we are called Upstream Communities – rather than upstream individuals.

Screwed?

One of the questions that has come up regularly in my discussions with youth pastors is the changing shape of sexual morality and male/female relationships among Christian young people.

What is the go here?

In these changing and supposedly ‘enlightened’ times is it now ok to do the hokey pokey pre-marriage? Is it now ok to hook up with and marry someone who doesn’t share your faith? Are these cultural norms or biblical ones?

I’ll confess my hand straight up on this one. I hold a conservative position. I believe the Bible leads us to a position of purity pre-marriage and then to sharing our lives with another follower of Jesus.

I believe sex (in its various forms i.e. not just intercourse) belongs in marriage. I also believe that is hard to do and our failures are always forgivable. However using that as an escape route (no pun intended) is pretty lame.

I also believe Christians are to marry people who share their faith. It is definitely not a sure fire way to have a great marriage, but honestly, I don’t think its even a real question if the driving agenda of our lives is ‘what does God want for me?’ Does God want me to spend my life with someone who is not interested in him and his kingdom? Ummm…

However, all that said, the reality is that most young people in churches today (I have heard it estimated 80% or higher) do not hold that same ‘no sex before marriage’ view. Or if they espouse it, they don’t practice it. And when it comes to finding a partner its tough for Christian young people. The field is narrow.

FWIW, its my own conviction that these are times to trust God, rather than give him the flick. My own experience of singleness almost brought me to despair as I couldn’t seem to find a suitable partner anywhere. But just as all hope was fading (I was all of 26!) Danelle popped up out of the blue.

I believe that old adage from 1 Samuel is completely true “He honours me, I will honour”. It doesn’t translate as he who tithes will have a heap of cash, or he who only dates Christian girls will marry a babe, or he who doesn’t do ‘it’ pre-marriage will get it more after. But I do believe that God doesn’t forget his kids at any time.

How about you?

What do you reckon on this increasingly controversial topic?

Is the changing position on sex a product of a changing culture or ought we read the Bible differently?

Is the idea of dating and marrying someone of the same faith an outdate one or is it something we still ought to hold to.

How much of our behaviour is actually shaped by our feelings at the time, and how much is by what we claim to believe.

Ok – all you youth pastor types! This is real life for you. These are the people you deal with every day. Lets hear your take on it.

Another Shame File

Yesterday I was sitting have lunch with Mark Wilson at the new Mullaloo Beach Hotel and we were discussing how beautiful the ocean looked.

It seemed a crime not to be out there fishing or enjoying it in some way…

So I rang my mate Vawz, who I was catching up with the next day and suggested we have our ‘meeting’ on the water rather than at the cafe.

He was pretty gungho about the idea… that is until we got there and the ocean was a little rougher than we thought.

‘Take me in Hamo. I’m scared!’

‘Get over it you woose…’

‘Hamo I think I’m gonna do number 2’s in my pants if we don’t get in!’

‘Come on Vawz. This happened last time! When are you going to grow up.’

‘No Hamo I mean it. I wish I’d never come….’ (imagine wailing and sobbing)

‘Ok,ok… it’ll be alright little fella. Come on. Uncle Hamo will take you in and its all going to be ok’

So – that was that. Scared and terrified Vawz made his way in, clutching the boat teddy the whole way. We got there eventually, but from the smell in the car in the way home I think number 2’s caught up on him.

Sorry Christine…

For Vawz’s take on what happened you can read his blog. You make up your own mind…