On Second Thoughts…

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: After some thought we figured we’d probably buy the camper at the price previously agreed as it was still in very good nick albeit not as old as we had thought.

However I also figured it wouldn’t hurt to politely ask if he would reconsider his price. I know I tend to respond better to a request than to someone trying to jostle me, so I texted a message simply asking if we would consider a reduction in price. He responded by knocking it down by $500.00. It was a deal and everyone was happy.

The moral of the story? It never hurts to ask the question 🙂

We picked up the new Patrol today and its a great driving car. Very pleased indeed.

We also bought a camper trailer yesterday, but that has become a little more complicated. Here’s the situation… let me know what you think…

The trailer was advertised as a 2002 Jayco Eagle (on-road) with a full annexe, TV & microwave. He had it in the Quokka for $16000.00 and after some haggling we agreed $15250 was a fair price. So we got the money out today to pay for it, but then got a call telling us he had made a mistake and it was actually a 2000 model…

Hmmm… While it is in excellent condition it is also 2 years older than I thought. I think it was a genuine mistake and not someone scamming. We asked for 24 hours to ponder it as I’m less convinced that is a good price for a vehicle that old.

But then I’m not a camper trailer expert.

There’s no question as to the condition of the camper. It is an 8/10 all thru and I have no problems with it in that regard. It would serve us well and we were looking forward to bringing it home.

The question is more related to resale. Can you get as good resale on an older camper?…

Any experts out there?…

Simple Church?

simplechurch.jpg My session at our Forge Re-imagine Learning Day this weekend revolves around the concepts presented in Simple Church by Thom Rainer and Eric Geiger. We are exploring what churches look like that have structures that facilitate healthy missional engagement and discipleship.

Duncan Brown who is about to be the new pastoral team leader at Peninsula Baptist Church in Vic (Mornington) is our key presenter and I am the ‘filler’…

What I liked about ‘SC’ is the way they distilled the essence of a healthy church into 4 distinct components and offered principles and a framework rather than a you beaut model.

However the further I went along the more I saw that while it may be ‘simple‘ it certainly wouldn’t be easy to do what they suggest.

The 4 core principles of ‘Simple Church’ are:

1. Clarity – because ‘people cannot embrace the ambiguous’. We need to decide what is is we are seeking to do and how we are seeking to do it. It needs to be clear and easily communicable so that people can ‘get it’. Clarity will enable measurability and accountability to what we put our hands to

2. Movement – Rhainer argues that we need to sequentially move people thru discipleship stages to help them increase in their

level of commitment. He states strongly that in churches where discipleship and mission is effective there is a ‘sequential / linear’ process that is followed. The sequence is not terribly imaginative being Sunday gathering – smaller groups – service. And I am not all that convinced that messy people follow linear processes very well either.

However his point is that we get ‘bottle-necks’ and need to clear them if people are to grow. Usually the bottle neck is the Sunday gig and we need to help people get beyond that. I’d like to see some more fluidity and flexibility in this dimension as it currently feels rather strait jacketish

3. Alignment – simply put this involves aligning all aspects of church life so that the same process occurs in each ministry area. It avoids groups competing and sending mixed messages to people. There is some real wisdom in this. Having been a youth pastor I know we developed our own vision statement, processes and systems alongside the main church, but it actually subverted the other congregation as we sought to develop our own identity.

Some will find Rhainer restrictive here, but the value is in harnessing a team that all wants to do the same things and not having competing agendas. Of course the question that arises is ‘what do we do with the disparate and dissenting voices?’ This hasn’t always been a strength of churches that are pursuing a vision. Its usually get on board or go somewhere else.

4. Focus – the point of this element is to eliminate any unnecessary activity and be very careful about adding anything new to the calendar. Often churches seem to develop and allow anything to happen so long as someone runs it and doesn’t ask for money. This element requires a particularly cohesive and focused leadership team to be able to implement and stay on track.

In all of these elements communication is crucial and the success of a church seeking to implement these elements will probably hinge on the degree to which they are able to get the message out. I guess we could call that good leadership!

While the book seeks to encourage churches to simplify, I am not quite sure where a missional involvement in the local community and everyday life fits. There was little if any talk of mission while there was talk of serving within the church.

Maybe I just notice these things more these days…

So you don’t need to come to my session now…

Pondering…

So we have a new car now and need to sell one of the others. It hadn’t really dawned on us that we could actually sell Danelle’s 1996 Falcon rather than the Cruiser… but I guess its a possibility… true?…

How would it look though… 2 big beasty trucks in the one small suburban garage…

We both love the old Cruiser so it might happen yet.

I don’t think we’d get as much for the Falcon though!

(This is where my mind goes when I am sitting at home on a rainy day preparing a talk for the ‘reimagine‘ weekend coming up)

Anyway… back into it…

The Medium & The Message

I was at a church yesterday (and would prefer if it remained nameless) where I couldn’t help being drawn back to that concept of ‘the medium is the message’.

I have no beef with these people and don’t write this to embarrass them, but rather to make the point that the way free monster squad the we do things communicates as much as what we do.

As we arrived there was a sign out the front… a sheet with writing on it in texta. The sign said ‘Ch- -ch What’s Missing?!’ A bit lame and tacky I thought… but each to their own.

During a break in our meeting I wandered up to the main auditorium to go to the toilet. The women’s toilet was clearly signed in the foyer, but the men’s was nowhere to be found. (Turns out it was outside and around the back!) I finished up being a woman for the next 30 seconds…

From the foyer I wandered into the main auditorium… just kinda curious…

The messages it sent were many and varied. The front 10 rows were old style pews and the rear were plastic chairs. A few crocheted lap rugs lay on the ends of the pews. As I wandered down to the front I was genuinely curious as to the various items that occupied the ‘stage’.

In the centre was both piano and organ. To one side was a small but formal table I am guessing for communion. Alongside it were two flags. One was Australian and other seemed to be Irish, but I couldn’t tell. These were big flags and prominent. I wondered about what this was communicating. I wondered what would happen if I were the pastor and removed the flags…

The decor said ’70’s and quite happy with it. The small wooden pulpit was slightly off centre and the only anomaly in the picture was a set of drums on the other side of the stage.

There was much more to observe – the style of bulletin, the literature available in the foyer, the signs around the place.

It all sent a message.

As I said, my intent is not to poke fun at this church as I’m sure they are genuine people, but rather to ask the question, ‘what do we say to people by the medium we use?’

I know it confronted me again yesterday that the medium speaks loud and clear. It made me wonder about what our lounge room, barbecue and trakky daks medium says to those who join in.

What does your own medium say to people?…

Too Good to Refuse…

A few days ago I was wondering about changing the old Landy for a newer more grunty vehicle that might get us around Oz a little bit quicker than ‘Big Brown’.

While she’s a magnificent old car its time to change…

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Today I bought a 1996 Patrol with only 116Ks on the clock for $13K. The bloke who owned it was Mr Meticulous and it was one of those ‘too good to refuse’ opportunities. It goes on gas shortly and will be ideal for what we need. Its the most money I have ever spent on a car and I am still getting used to the whole idea!

So sadly the old Landy is for sale if anyone is interested! You can check it out on ebay but email me if you want to know more. Its a brilliant old car if you like classic 4wds and aren’t worried about going too fast…

Faith

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“The greatest proof of Christianity for others is not how far a man can logically analyze his reasons for believing, but how far in practice he will stake his life on his belief” TS Eliot

I remember hearing the story of a door to door ‘evangelist’ who was announcing the end of the world on a specific date and trying passionately to get people to sign up to their cause so that they wouldn’t be obliterated on the final day. One rather clever householder who happened to be a lawyer, asked the ‘evangelist’ if he really believed what he was saying was true.

‘Absolutely! No doubt – whatsoever!’ replied the evangelist.

The lawyer then invited the evangelist to sign everything he owned over to him on the day following the ‘end of the world’.

I guess you know what happened next…

We know what we really believe by how we live. Rather confronting at times isn’t it?

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The Problem is Christianity

I receive occasional emails from local Bible college lecturer John Yates. John is generally accepted as having a strong prophetic gifting and while I must confess that I don’t always understand all of what he says, this article had some great insights:

The second last paragraph summarises it:

The greatest obstacle to the advance of the kingdom of God in most of the West is not secularism, religious pluralism or Islam, but a resurgent Christianity. By this I mean a religion dominated by mega churches, super pastors and political influence. What we are most in need of today is a post – Christianity church.

Interested?…

Read the whole thing below:

The Identity Crisis in the Church: Christianity versus Jesus

Being a professional Christian for over 25 years (ordained in 1982), and having taught theology for about 15 of those, I am always amazed at the identity confusion amongst Australian believers. Relatively few seem to be conscious of what their union with Christ means, not only at a personal subjective level but in all spheres of life. Many struggle, self – confessedly, to live in a state of intimacy with God (contra, e.g.1 Cor 6:17, “he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him.”). For some time I have come to the conclusion that at the root of the problem is not simply indwelling sin nor the forces of the world, but Christianity.

By “Christianity” I mean the construct of organised religious practice that developed in post – Constantinian Europe and was then progressively exported around the globe. It is the dominant form of religion we are familiar with to this day – church buildings, professional ministries, set services, academic training for ministry and so on. My agenda here is not to go over the usual ground covered by church renewal advocates, like the house church movement and the “emerging church”. Rather, I am interested in a more fundamental issue, Christian identity itself.

The Holy Spirit has been subjecting “Christianity” in Australia to humiliation for some years. One incident particularly comes to mind. In 2003 we had the very public scandal of Archbishop Peter Hollingworth resigning from our highest political office, Governor –General. This was because of his failure to deal with clerical sex abuse while he was archbishop of Brisbane. The list of scandals involving respected Christian leaders could easily be multiplied, but few commentators touch on the heart of the issue –we have become more focused on church culture than Christ. I think we are making disciples of the church more than disciples of Christ. This became very clear to me during a recent pastors breakfast.

Generally when the boys get together there’s talk about “who’s got the biggest” and “who can do it the best”; things were a little different this time as the guest speaker was not a church leader. His talk drew attention, amongst other things, to the creeping dangers of secularism and Islam. These topics excited the audience to a palpable degree, but I sensed their acute fear was not of Christ, whose “perfect love casts out fear” (1 John 4:18). In fact, the centre of the anxiety seemed to be the loss of our “Christian heritage”. No – one present seemed to imagine that the kingdom of God could grow whilst the influence of Christianity on state policy and structures be in decline.

While all this was going on I had an awareness that the Holy Spirit was drawing my attention to an earlier conversation at our table. One of the pastors related how he had recently taken the wedding of a divorcee whose first wife left him for another woman. It turned out that the repressed thought that had been traumatizing the man was, “Did I cause my wife to become gay?” The entire situation was permeated with confusion about gender identity – the woman was clearly not living in the truth of her femaleness, and her previous husband was uncertain about his masculinity.

Gender identity is generated in an oppositional or bipolar manner. Adam becomes aware of himself only after the creation of Eve, a helper “corresponding to”, or “standing over against” him. “A helping being, in which, as soon as he sees it, he will recognise himself.” (Delitzsch, my emphasis). Before the creation of a woman Adam is simply a name for humankind. It is in through the illumination, ““This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.”” (Gen 2:23), that Adam becomes a self – consciously male person and Eve a self –consciously female. Whilst Adam was alone, it was impossible for him to know through introversion his gender identity.

Counselling experience reveals similar patterns. Where the male- female pattern of intimate bonding is not imaged in a human family the result is always some level of confusion about who we are as sexual beings and how this can find genuine fulfillment. Auto – eroticism in various expressions is a necessary consequence. This is more pervasive than we generally imagine, as a (Christian) psychologist said to one of my parishioners, “You need to stop masturbating through your wife.” Since the “one flesh” of marriage is a type of Christ and the church (Eph 5:32), the divorce/gay situation immediately spoke to me about the real spiritual crisis in our midst today that was being overlooked in the pastors breakfast.

The primary spiritual struggle in contemporary Australia is not between Christianity and secularism, or Christianity and Islam, but between Jesus’ kingdom and Christianity. At the root of the widespread apathy in the church and the broadly acknowledged lack of intimacy with God, is confusion between Christianity and Christ. Contemporary Western Christianity largely defines itself by its relationship with itself and its history. It is extremely introverted. This is indicated, for example, by the inordinate focus on leadership, ministry, church growth, gifts, the Bible, anointing, prosperity, revival etc. rather than on the person of Jesus and his living presence amongst us. ““To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: ‘The words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks among the seven golden lampstands.” (Rev 2:1)

The people of God can only know their deepest inward identity as the Bride of Christ through an immediate and passionate awareness, in the Spirit, that Jesus is their Bridegroom (John 3:29; Rev 19:6 – 8). Where this is lacking, much of what transpires as Christian spirituality is simply “spiritual masturbation.” It may have the appearance of godliness, but is part of a religious culture that lacks the interpenetrative power of holiness (2 Tim 3:5). (For those with a trinitarian bent, it is not a participation in the perichoretic glory of God, cf. 2 Pet 1:4). Nothing less than a back to Jesus movement that emphasises the mystery of Christ at the centre of “our religion” (1 Tim 3:16) will see any significant change in the spiritual landscape of Australia.

On a practical note, for many years I have been teaching my students “the Jesus test”. When you are listening to a sermon pay attention to how long before the name of Jesus is mentioned, and whether he is used as an illustration of the principle being advocated or its substance. Practicing this rule has caused many of them (especially in Charismatic – Pentecostal congregations) much distress. “test all things” (1 Thess 5:20).

The greatest obstacle to the advance of the kingdom of God in most of the West is not secularism, religious pluralism or Islam, but a resurgent Christianity. By this I mean a religion dominated by mega churches, super pastors and political influence. What we are most in need of today is a post – Christianity church.

My thinking on this was confirmed by a recent email sent out about the British religious scene under the heading, “Excarnating Christianity, Incarnating Islam”. The Church of England Newspaper May 26, 2008 says, “Islam is being institutionalised, incarnated, into national structures amazingly fast, at the same time as …. the ‘excarnation’ of Christianity… out of state policy and structures”. Whilst this may be sad for those who sentimentalise about the loss of the fides historica (inherited conventional religion), it is surely a sign of the judgement of God on the human construct of privilege and compromise called “Christianity” and a preparation for a return to radical Christ- centred faith that disappeared from Western society long ago.dick tracy online

Hamo The Kid’s Minister Rides Again…

I have been sitting here doing some prep for the kids stuff we do on Sundays.

But I’m not so sure I want to go the route ‘the book’ is suggesting. Given my disaster last time I’m not sure I should be trusted with a Bible around young kids…

The theme has us looking at 4 significant mountain experiences in the Bible. The first – the one Danelle and I are responsible for – is Mt Moriah, where God has Abraham lead Issac up to be sacrificed. (Can anyone see a great simulation game developing?…)

I find this a testing story at the best of times. I don’t ‘get’ the way God works in this one. I wonder if we do our kids harm by telling them about a God who gives a man a son then asks him to kill him, albeit as a sacrifice.

Its not an ideal ‘kids story’, is it?…

Then again this is all part of the narrative and another part of me says we shouldn’t hide kids from the parts of God we find difficult or confusing. They might even ‘get it’ better than we do.

The other bit I am pondering is the theological framing of the lesson, which says God can’t really use us unless he has tested us. And if we fail the test then we have to wait until God tests us again before we can be of use to him. Maybe I’m overthinking it, but to me that’s a fairly broad generalisation and probably not a message I would subscribe to.

Anyway… will see what develops