Some thoughts on missionary work in suburbia Part 1

Recently I was chewing thru what it looks like to be a missionary in suburbia – why its difficult – why progress is slow and why this is often ‘hard soil’ for the gospel. That’s not me being negative – I just think its the truth.

How do we make connections that allow for the gospel to be communicated in a genuine way?

As I was journalling this stuff it occured to me that effective relationship centred mission in suburbia requires several facets that to some degree ‘build on each other’ if we are to see people make a connection with both us and Christ. Very few things in life are completely linear and these ideas aren’t either, but here are my raw thoughts for your sampling and comment.

Building Block 1. Proximity – Not rocket science I realise. Its pretty obvious that its harder to develop significant relationships with people you aren’t physically close to. Our approach has been to move into a suburb with a group of families and focus intently on one specific area as a geographical region. We have been inspired by the incarnation and Eugene Petersen translates it beautifully in The Message John 1:14 “The Word became flesh and moved into the neighbourhood.”

We find ourselves asking if the word became flesh and moved into the neighbourhood then what would that mean? How would Jesus live in our community?

Occasionally in my more lustful moments, I have contemplated moving to a house that is closer to the beach with great ocean views etc, but even to move one suburb away would affect our mindset and the sense of community we have been seeking to develop locally in the fairly discrete Brighton estate. To live in Quinns Rock is not to live in Brighton (although they are neighbouring suburbs) and we have quite intentionally set our sights on a significant involvement in this local area.

I would suggest we are simply less able to develop significant relationships with those who live a greater distance from us, so in my mind proximity is a ‘first base’ factor. If this one isn’t in place then the rest (while not impossible) will get harder.

Just as a note we also see the workplace, family, friendships and all of life as significant from a kingdom perspective, but we moved to Brighton to become involved in this community specifically, hence that is the dominant object in our field of vision.

Building Block 2. Regularity – remember I am writing about relational mission here and significant relationships require significant time invested in them. If we are to get to know people then we will need to be in each others lives with a high degree of regularity.

What do I mean by that?…

Good question… I would suggest that weekly (ideally) face to face contact ought to be a minimum if we are to see relationships go beyond the fluff.

“Wow!… Who does that?!” I hear you say.

Fair question, especially for blokes in the burbs. Mums seem to be able to pull this off more easily with playgroups, coffee mornings etc, but for the 9-5 ers (or probably more accurately 7.30-6 ers) its a big ask. Once relationships are well established we can decrease the regularity and all is ok, but certainly in the early days regular contact is important if we are to gather enough momentum for a significant friendship to develop.

I have a couple of friends (not part of our Upstream

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community) who I connect with weekly, but that is because we have a Friday night cards evening that brings us all together, or because we roast coffee/share common interests. I doubt we would catch up as often if there was no specific ‘purpose’. Life just gets too busy and tiring and its easy not to make time. I also see a fair bit of the blokes in the street, but that is simply because we live nearby and we engage in street banter.

I believe if we are to see community develop in the burbs it will be largely because we have chosen to make time to be with others, both in a planned and spontaneous way. If we don’t make/create the time then we will live with an ongoing sense of frustration that our community isn’t really ‘what a community should be’. (The marketing tagline for Brighton!)

Let’s be honest though. To see someone regularly is a big ask and this is the point at where relationships come unstuck for most of us unless we are very intentional about nurturing them.

Forge WA Survey Summary

Ok here are the summarised results from our Forge WA online survey after 100 respondents. Thanks to all who responded and helped us review where we sit.

I haven’t included any interpretation yet, but I would be interested to hear what others would see these results saying. Feel free to leave a comment.

Demographics:

• The largest group of responses came from males 25-35 (27%) and 36-45 (28%)

• 23% of the responses were from women with the 25-35 age range the largest (9%)

Church Connections:

• 56% of responses were from people who are part of an existing church

• 19% were part of a new missional community

• 13% didn’t fit the categories or were ‘between churches’

Involvement With Forge:

• Interesting that the largest group are those who are ‘interested but haven’t got around to anything yet’ (19%)

• The second largest was both the ‘intensive attenders’ (17%) and those who would just like to stay in the loop of the conversation (17%)

What People Perceive Forge to be About:

• Provoking new thinking about mission and church was way up high with 79%

• Training missionaries for the west had 59%

• Being a prophetic voice to the churches had 34%

The Greatest Need for Forge to be Addressing:

• Simple training in missional living was the top response here with 43%

• The development of young adults into disciples was high with 16% but was the third preference behinng ‘other’ (22%) and there was a huge diversity of thoughts here.

Some of those responses include:

1. training and mentoring misional leaders

2. Re-definition of what the christian faith can look like

3. to actually do the evangelism it criticies others for not doing

4. How to inculcate Kantian courage

5. Seeking the new “traditions”and “rituals” that enhance emerging church

6. How to encourage existing churches (not just dying ones) to re-assess their paradigm of mission and re-form themselves as local counter-cultural movements

7. how to develop anyone into disciples of Christ

8. what is the gospel of the ‘kingdom of God’ mean to everything

9. hurts

10. Challenging non-gospel beliefs held by Christians

11. I cant choose between re-igniting dying churches and developing young adults into disciples.. dont they go hand in hand?

12. Build real churches

13. Stimulating thinking around growing the kingdom

14. How to live and share the gospel in our communities

15. It has to be about more than the above

Our Profile:

• 78% of people said we need groups like Forge to keep us thinking and developing.

• 56% said they see Forge as a healthy addition to the church scene here in Perth.

• There were a number of other responses, some of which were quite critical. See below:

1. From 5, above: To get off of their high horse and to admit, whether they like it or not, that they are just another church, and no better than the rest of us, no matter how much they try to put the rest of us down with their “spirituality”. I usually find their condescension offensive and tasteless. Question 6: My perceptions, based on my own experience, is that Forge and the “emerging church” is to self righteous, and arrogant.

2. Complaining about the existing church is like shooting fish in a barrel, too easy. They are arm chair critics who seek to teach others their ideas without much success themselves. They are negative people who do not lead by example. Charasmatics, evangelicals and liberals are nicer people who lead by example. Forge people like to see themselves as ‘revolutionaries’ without showing us what the revolution is leading to.

3. I think there is a lot of talking, and not a lot of action. (wow, that sounds judgemental, prove me wrong 🙂 ) I also wonder about the negative effect Forge is having on young leaders

4. I feel like I’ve finally found a place where I’m not misunderstood. Intensives stoke up the fire in my soul.

5. I have found it is helpful in changing thinking but would like to see more of this moving into separate denominations.

6. Helping people to push the boundaries on how they think about church and mission is very good. All I wonder is when Forge turns from being on the frontier to becoming what it is trying to influence or just another version of church. I see great value in forge from my limited experience. Hopefully it will continue to stay fresh and keep people on their toes.

7. Another ‘church’

8. Courageous, on the mark, disciples of Jesus.

9. Unfortunately I see some of the members of Forge building their lifestyles and notoriety(quite noticeably) at the expense of or in conjunction with serving the Kingdom of God .

10. It thinks it’s more different to the established church than it really is.

11. In the past I’ll admit my perception of Forge was lots of complaining about how church is all bad and we should be different, but not much action. I don’t know if it’s my shift in thinking towards the emerging church or just having heard more about stuff that people within Forge are actually doing, but I think my perception is healthier now 🙂 But I think that perception still exists “out there”.

12. I am concerned that majority of christians haven’t heard of forge, and are scared when they hear about it

13. Still sussing Forge out. Positive about innovation, cautious about theology.

How do we go about assessing the impact of Forge in WA?:

• 47% said ‘the degree to which Forge ideas have spread’

• 27% said ‘the degree to which the established church embraces Forge concepts’

• 18% said ‘the number of new churches planted’

The ‘other’ category had 36% of respondents so here is a sample of what was said:

1. The lives that are transformed into the image of Christ. “Opposition” = impact? Oh the martyr complex of some groups!!

2. The number of people who feel impacted by the ministry

3. Forge will only ever appeal to a certain group of people so I don’t think Forge should assess the impact it has on WA it is awesome and you will soon start to see the fruits of your labour.

4. Number of healthy communities that form without needing to complain about other expressions of faith

5. How can you possibly assess the degree to which lives are changed? If only one new disciple makes it, surely it is an impact. Everything that is made from gold takes generations to build.

6. Nnot the number of people attending intensives but maybe the number of different people attending intensives???

7. Focus on obedience not on fruit…

8. Don’t…God will let you know how it’s all going. all the rest is for man who is temperamental. trust me, i’m a man…

9. Faithfullness in fostering communities that love God and neighbour

10. Whether you feel you’ve stuck to God’s original vision for you

11. If itb helps one person it is worthwhile.

12. A growing movement of transformed people introducing others to the Life Changer, no matter what environment these people can be found in.

13. The number of people becoming community (outwardly) oriented rather than church (inwardly) oriented.

14. Will be hard to measure. Numbers of “church-plants” would be significant- but so is the number of participants challenged to “change/fix/refocus” a church the currently lead/attend

15. Souls saved

So there you have it!

Do those results sound like what you would have expected or do they sound significantly different?

I was actually surprised that we were able to generate 100 responses so quickly!

Contextualisation Gone Mad?

Here’s one to ruffle your evangelical feathers a wee bit… I posted this on the forgewa blog earlier today.

During a recent trip to Thailand I came across some innovative and boundary pushing missionaries from New Song church in LA.

They were wonderfully refreshing people and willing to ask hard questions about context and gospel.

They spoke to me about the ‘New Buddhism’, the term they use for the gospel planted in buddhist cultures.

Here is the article they sent me.

What do you think?!

I’ll tell you my opinion tomorrow 🙂

Dodgy Evangelism in Emerging Churches?

One of Scot McKnight’s critique’s of the Emerging Church scene is that it is weak on evangelism. (See the quote below. Its long but worth reading.)

This is deeply ironic because much of what sparked the EC movement was a concern for the missional impetus of the church! However I would tend to agree with Scot that there is a real potential for evangelism to be lost in the more ‘process’ and ‘journey’ oriented approach to mission. It concerns me and disturbs me that we may end up losing the evangelistic impulse as we seek to be ‘missional’. Crazy…

There is much that is good about the EC approach to mission, but by and large the ability to call people to commitment is not up there as one of our notable strengths. I believe this needs some work and ultimately it may be the achilles heel – the difference between a movement that truly reshapes the landscape and just another bunch of people who had some good ideas but couldn’t make them fly.

As for me and my house – we are deeply and unashamedly committed to evangelism – the kind that loves people, serves them, prays for them, hangs out with them… and yes… tells them about Jesus and invites them to follow him.

My biggest struggle all along this road has been the fact that I can’t do the work of the HS in people’s hearts. I can do all of the above and people may still not choose to follow Jesus.

BUT let’s not stop speaking of Jesus and calling people to follow him. When we do that we might as well pack up the couches & red wine and go home…

I reckon its as serious as that.

In vs. Out

Now a third, very controversial element. Many in the emerging movement are post-evangelical because they are inherently skeptical about the “in vs. out” mentality of the evangelical movement. Let’s get the foil for the emergents on the table: evangelicals render judgment on who is and who isn’t a Christian. Catholics know who is Catholic, and Orthodox know who

is Orthodox – that’s easy. Check the list. Evangelicals don’t have official lists, but rely on personal conversion. And anyone who hasn’t had this conversion is not a Christian – whether they go to Church or not.

The emerging movement is skeptical of our ability to know such things. Some will point to the words of Jesus: “he who is not against us, is for us.” Others, using the words of Clark Pinnock’s book, point to a “wideness in God’s mercy.” And yet others will point to postmodernity’s crushing of metanarratives and will extend that as well to master theological narratives –

like Christianity. And some will then say what really matters is orthopraxy and that it doesn’t matter one bit which religion one belongs to as long as one loves God and loves one’s neighbor as one’s self. And some will tag along with Spencer Burke’s thoroughly unbiblical, overcharged Arminian concept of prevenient grace and contend that all are born “in” and only “opt

out.” I hear many more speak of a spectrum of faith, degrees of faith, and permeable walls that permit “belonging” before believing.

However one orders these thoughts, the issue is that many in the emerging movement don’t think it is possible to know if others are genuinely in the family of God – they don’t very often use “saved” – and so WTS Emerging 26 they assume or trust that others are in the family of God or are moving into the family of God.

Which creates a serious issue on evangelism. The emerging movement is not known for it – and I wish it were known more for it. I believe it is right here that we are staring at a very serious issue for the emerging movement itself: any kind of Christianity and any kind of Christian – and I don’t want to say the Reformed are excused from this problem – that is not evangelistic is woefully inadequate. Unless you proclaim the good news of Jesus Christ, there is no good news at all; and if there is no good news, there is no Christianity – emerging or Reformed.

I speak personally. I’m an evangelist – not so much the tract-toting and door-knocking kind, but I am the Jesus- talking and Jesus- teaching kind. 50% of my students in my Jesus of Nazareth class are non-Christians, and I spend time praying in my office before class, and time praying in the car driving to school, and lots of time pondering ” time thinking about how to say what in order to bring home the message of the gospel in my classrooms. And I can tell you that I’m more than grateful for the numbers of kids who come to Christ or who give their lives back to Christ that come my way each year.

And I offer here a warning to you and to the emerging movement: any movement that is not evangelistic is failing the Lord. We may be humble about what we believe and we may be careful to make the gospel and its commitment clear, but we better have a goal in mind – the goal of

summoning everyone to follow Jesus Christ and to discover the redemptive work of God in Christ through the Spirit of God. wallace gromit in the curse of the were rabbit online

Runs on The Board

Yesterday we held our Forge Postcard event ‘Runs on the Board’.

One of the questions we are often asked as pioneers is ‘where are the runs on the board in experimental mission?’ Sometimes its asked with a good spirit and other times with a fair degree of cyncism. Either way we felt it was time to address the question head on so we set aside a couple of hours and held an open forum on the issue.

The format was fairly simple. Three of us – Geoff Westlake (Community Dev approach to mission), Stuart Wesley (Re-missionalising) and myself all had 15 minutes to present how we saw ‘the runs’ followed by 15 minutes of question and answer with an extended time of open question time / discussion at the end for 30 minutes.

We had around 40 people front up to be part of the forum and I think we could say it went very well.

We have made an MP3 of it, but I’m reluctant to put a link to it on here for everyone to access. Some of what was said needs to be understood in its context and there are some references to local communities. So we want to be careful how we use it. If you reckon you would find it helpful to listen to then drop me an email and I’ll figure out how to make it happen.

Otherwise you are welcome to look at my powerpoint notes here demon hunter movie .

The Carson Conversation IV

After I finished it was Geoff’s turn to say a few words.

His presentation was entitled “Conversing with the Emerging Church (“well, the Emerging MISSIONAL church …in Australia “in Banksia Grove, at least) again emphasising the difficulty of making generalisations.

To be fair Don did mention the trouble with generalising, but then he did go on to do it also… So make whatever you like of that!

Geoff made his best point at the start when emphasised the fact that no one is saying ‘est church bad em church good’, but rather we acknowledge that there are good est churches and good em churches and vice versa. We would be fully supporting and encouraging the missional churches in either arena.

Geoff spoke of how mission occurs in his community:

Contact – [Changes Crisis Conflict Cycles Crowds Coincidences]

Connect – [Eat, Dream”]

Communicate – [Appetizers, Demonstrate & Elephants]

Continue – [Relationship networks (GP)Discipling ReflAct, Sharing Life 1Thess 2:8]

(Don’t worry if it doesn’t all make sense. Essentially Geoff was describing how his own local community functions. There is nothing controversial there!)

Geoff went on to emphasis that the whole gospel is presented:

God

Bible

Problem

Solution: Xmas, Cross, Res, HS

Follow Me + lifestyle

He gave some of his philosophy

– Not about connecting with Culture, but with people

– I don’t want to be postmodern / modern, but Gospel

– Therefore I do want to:

– DELETE consumerism, dependency/passivity, isolationism, self-centeredness

– UPLOAD “KofGod near you” – in all of life; interconnect between neighbors & strangers;

– wholistic community development; empower the weak & humane-ize the powerful;

– All under the Lordship of Christ; living “Christ-in-you”; which does mean addressing sin, and truth claims (Cross, Res), Lordship, along the way.

Geoff explained why he is no longer in the established church

On the left is where he has been and on the right is where he is now:

Buildings / life’s ant-trails

Expertism / empower the ordinary

Programs / relationships

‘In-here’ orientation / ‘out here’

Money dependant / money-free

Culture-bound / incarnate – indigenous

It was a hell of a lot of info for 15 minutes, but it was great to hear how it all works out in situ from someone who knows what he’s on about.

It was then Don’s turn to respond for a further 10 minutes.

To be honest I can’t remember what he said and I didn’t write any of it down. It wasn’t that crucial. He did however mention yet again that we seemed to be of a different breed to the North American scene and that he was not concerned that we drift off in eccentricity. That’s an interesting comment because (as much as I am ignorant) I would assume there is great diversity in the US scene also.

One important thing Don said that relates to our conversations on here, was that he has chosen not to enter the blogosphere in any shape or form. This is a conscious choice and based on the feeling that (in his opinion), it is very difficult to respond carefully and coherently in an ‘instant’ conversational form. He indicated that he would rather take the time to think thru the issues and offer a more measured response. I sense this is a function of his own personality and his preference for precision and detail.

So that’s why we haven’t seen him on here and probably won’t in the future. I’m sure he could hold his own in an argument, but it is his choice not to engage in this forum.

I’ll finish this series off tomorrow with some reflections on what was actually achieved by this whole forum…

The Carson Conversation III

I have often said that I am a theologian in the same sense that I am a missionary – a ‘backyard’ one who can pull stuff together – sometimes slowly – and not always with ease of an expert or with the polished finish. I am also not well travelled and so my reflection on the state of the EC in different countries is limited to what I read on blogs and what I hear from people who do visit eg. my friend Al Hirsch.

For those who are reading this and reflecting on what we need to hear I refer you to these various sources.

Andrew Jones began the ball rolling download snakes on a plane dvdrip way back in 2004 with a series of posts.

And then handballed it to Scot McKnight who did a fairly close analysis / review of Carson’s book. I have linked to the first in his series of posts, but there are 8 in all, so read them all if you are wanting to see one academic engage with another.

Andrew is one of the most respected leaders in the EC arena and has his finger on the pulse of what is happening around the world while Scot has approached the whole emerging church scene as an academic who is keen to give room for growth and experimentation, while calling people not to wander from the core tenets of the faith.

I’ll write more in due course – right now I have a nasty head cold that is making me feel groggy – but you could do worse than to go back and read all the stuff these guys have written. Another excellent piece of work was also produced by David Mills who was present at Carson’s lecture series.

Someone asked me if I still see myself as part of the emerging church, given Carson’s critique and his statement that ‘we may not actually be considered emerging in other parts of the world’. My response is to say ‘Yes I am.’ Not because I subscribe to all that he critiques, but largely because I am not about to allow him to define me out.

While I do have problems with such a fuzzy term as ’emerging church’, I am willing to accept that my own position sits somewhere under that umbrella and I am not about to opt out. That would feel kinda lame…

What Do You Miss?

Ok here’s a question for the missionary church planters of this world…

What do you miss about where you have come from five people you meet in heaven the divx download ?

What was there about church as you used to do it that you would like to inject into this current expression?

For me, its a greater diversity of ages, especially the presence of some old people – the 70 + types. We have no one over 49 in our community and I sense we are the poorer for it. I have been praying for several months now for an older couple/s to come and join us because I feel we are missing their wisdom and experience as well as the (often) very unselfish nature that is common to that generation.

It struck me again as I spent the morning preaching at Como Baptist and bumped into a bunch of older people.

They see the world differently. They are often quaint, sometimes dottery and occasionally even a pain in the butt, but I feel my life is poorer because I don’t have as many old people in it at the moment. As well as what they give to me, they also force me to enter their world and grow me in the process.

I miss the old people and would love a few up here!